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	<description>Thoughts on Web Measurement &#38; Optimisation - by Jonny Longden</description>
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		<title>By: Mat Heating</title>
		<link>http://actionable-analytics.com/2009/08/essential-guide-to-data-accuracy-in-web-analytics/comment-page-1/#comment-335</link>
		<dc:creator>Mat Heating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 01:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This information is really helpful in understanding the discrepancies i am experiencing in metering the traffic to my websites. 
Rob you&#039;re absolutely right in focusing on conversion rate, because that&#039;s what it comes down to in the end!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This information is really helpful in understanding the discrepancies i am experiencing in metering the traffic to my websites.<br />
Rob you&#8217;re absolutely right in focusing on conversion rate, because that&#8217;s what it comes down to in the end!</p>
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		<title>By: Time Synchronisation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Time Synchronisation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rob Saxe</title>
		<link>http://actionable-analytics.com/2009/08/essential-guide-to-data-accuracy-in-web-analytics/comment-page-1/#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Saxe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 00:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this discussion.  I&#039;m a neophyte in this arena and am just trying to figure out why GA and Sitemeter differ so much but this article answered that question for me. Either metric is only as accurate as the data it&#039;s seeing or whether the data can be seen.  Between the two, I&#039;m probably somewhere in the middle.
Thank you again.  I&#039;ll put less emphasis on the UV&#039;s and concentrate on conversion.
Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this discussion.  I&#8217;m a neophyte in this arena and am just trying to figure out why GA and Sitemeter differ so much but this article answered that question for me. Either metric is only as accurate as the data it&#8217;s seeing or whether the data can be seen.  Between the two, I&#8217;m probably somewhere in the middle.<br />
Thank you again.  I&#8217;ll put less emphasis on the UV&#8217;s and concentrate on conversion.<br />
Rob</p>
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		<title>By: Jonny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 08:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sounds plausable - do you use the WASP firefox extension to check your tags are firing? The basic version is free; I would recommend installing it and running a load of tests to see how quickly the tag fires.

Good luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds plausable &#8211; do you use the WASP firefox extension to check your tags are firing? The basic version is free; I would recommend installing it and running a load of tests to see how quickly the tag fires.</p>
<p>Good luck</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Knightley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Knightley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 08:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jonny,

Thanks for your quick response. We&#039;ve set a GA goal on the thankyou page for people who have registered with the website.
Last month this showed a 22% difference to our CRM database.
Surely GA should perform better than 22%?
Using the JavaScript console inside Chrome, it shows that _utm.gif is always taking much longer to load than all the other resources for the rest of the pages (sometimes over a second). Could it be latency? Could the user be moving beyond our thankyou/goal page before GA has a chance to register a page impression?

Justin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jonny,</p>
<p>Thanks for your quick response. We&#8217;ve set a GA goal on the thankyou page for people who have registered with the website.<br />
Last month this showed a 22% difference to our CRM database.<br />
Surely GA should perform better than 22%?<br />
Using the JavaScript console inside Chrome, it shows that _utm.gif is always taking much longer to load than all the other resources for the rest of the pages (sometimes over a second). Could it be latency? Could the user be moving beyond our thankyou/goal page before GA has a chance to register a page impression?</p>
<p>Justin</p>
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		<title>By: Jonny</title>
		<link>http://actionable-analytics.com/2009/08/essential-guide-to-data-accuracy-in-web-analytics/comment-page-1/#comment-108</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Justin, 

Thanks for reading. All being well your GA form submissions should be reasonably similar to what you see in the back-end database, with the main exception being duplication (i.e. people might submit more than one form, but if you are deduping the database before counting then you would have lower numbers). If the figures are completely out then something is wrong I would say. 

GA is as accurate as any other tool. Commercial vendors would tell you different, but any improvement would be marginal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Justin, </p>
<p>Thanks for reading. All being well your GA form submissions should be reasonably similar to what you see in the back-end database, with the main exception being duplication (i.e. people might submit more than one form, but if you are deduping the database before counting then you would have lower numbers). If the figures are completely out then something is wrong I would say. </p>
<p>GA is as accurate as any other tool. Commercial vendors would tell you different, but any improvement would be marginal.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Knightley</title>
		<link>http://actionable-analytics.com/2009/08/essential-guide-to-data-accuracy-in-web-analytics/comment-page-1/#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Knightley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 07:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We’re a fairly IT led company when it comes to reporting, and experiencing difficulty with management buy-in of GA goal data (we’ve been running GA for 2 years now).

When someone completes a goal, e.g. website registration, what % tolerance would you say is acceptable comparing to our CRM database?

How accurate should GA be? Is GA any more/less accurate than other tools?

I&#039;d be really interested to learn about other people&#039;s experiences here!

Justin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re a fairly IT led company when it comes to reporting, and experiencing difficulty with management buy-in of GA goal data (we’ve been running GA for 2 years now).</p>
<p>When someone completes a goal, e.g. website registration, what % tolerance would you say is acceptable comparing to our CRM database?</p>
<p>How accurate should GA be? Is GA any more/less accurate than other tools?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be really interested to learn about other people&#8217;s experiences here!</p>
<p>Justin</p>
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		<title>By: Adey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 05:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting the difference between ad-tracking and site tracking.  The media agency says that there were 100K UVs... and the creative agency says there were only 65K of which 25K left immediately.  

This occurs regularly for display, affiliates and search.  The drop-off is mistakes, people not arriving because page loading at either the media tracking or landing page was so slow, tags being too far down the landing page that users had clicked on before it was triggered etc... and all the reasons you suggest about methodology. 

I&#039;ve seen major differences between reporting of channels when SEO, PPC, display, affiliates and direct traffic feature in the multiple visits required to buy a product (a holiday, for example). This can have a dramatic effect of how you optimize spend on each of these marketing approaches.

So one of the biggest outcomes for a planning team is that he whole business says they don&#039;t trust the data you are using... so regularly communicating that all is well is very important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting the difference between ad-tracking and site tracking.  The media agency says that there were 100K UVs&#8230; and the creative agency says there were only 65K of which 25K left immediately.  </p>
<p>This occurs regularly for display, affiliates and search.  The drop-off is mistakes, people not arriving because page loading at either the media tracking or landing page was so slow, tags being too far down the landing page that users had clicked on before it was triggered etc&#8230; and all the reasons you suggest about methodology. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen major differences between reporting of channels when SEO, PPC, display, affiliates and direct traffic feature in the multiple visits required to buy a product (a holiday, for example). This can have a dramatic effect of how you optimize spend on each of these marketing approaches.</p>
<p>So one of the biggest outcomes for a planning team is that he whole business says they don&#8217;t trust the data you are using&#8230; so regularly communicating that all is well is very important.</p>
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		<title>By: ellen keri goldberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellen keri goldberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes...this issue is one that we must all difference. It would be nice not to have to go on these wild goose chases to figure out why the data says what it does. However, how does one go about verifying the data without doing this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes&#8230;this issue is one that we must all difference. It would be nice not to have to go on these wild goose chases to figure out why the data says what it does. However, how does one go about verifying the data without doing this?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Bovingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Bovingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an often overlooked aspect of analytics but something very close to my heart. Your data is actually only as good as the underlying accuracy of unique visitor identification. It&#039;s like a building, if the foundations are weak (ie you can&#039;t identify people), the whole structure above becomes weak (ie your business is at risk). So understanding these limitations is crucial. 

Now that everything is starting to go mobile this issue gets even more complex. The key methods of visitor identification become flawed on mobile, whether on a standard phone, smartphone or a PC connecting via mobile broadband. 

To start with cookies are less reliable - as well user deletion some handsets automatically delete cookies when you close the browser or restart the phone. Also some mobile operators block cookies - this often depends on the connection gateway used or the use of transcoders. 

Secondly, the IP address is rarely the physical device but rather the operators gateway machine the device is connected through, so all Sprint customers and Sprint MVNO customers (like Boost) in the US come through the same range of IP addresses. 

Lastly consumers now switch connections between operator networks and WiFi (see http://bango.com/wifi) which affects the ability to track, most systems will allocate a new identity in this case. 

Fortunately, unlike the PC, mobile devices come with operator identity which can be used safely and anonymously to persistently track consumers. For example, Bango Analytics (http://bango.com/analytics) uses this technique through relationships with operators around the world. It means Bango can offer much higher visitor identification accuracy than other solutions. It also works on PC sites - it&#039;s worth trying the free trial (http://bango.com/signup) and comparing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an often overlooked aspect of analytics but something very close to my heart. Your data is actually only as good as the underlying accuracy of unique visitor identification. It&#8217;s like a building, if the foundations are weak (ie you can&#8217;t identify people), the whole structure above becomes weak (ie your business is at risk). So understanding these limitations is crucial. </p>
<p>Now that everything is starting to go mobile this issue gets even more complex. The key methods of visitor identification become flawed on mobile, whether on a standard phone, smartphone or a PC connecting via mobile broadband. </p>
<p>To start with cookies are less reliable &#8211; as well user deletion some handsets automatically delete cookies when you close the browser or restart the phone. Also some mobile operators block cookies &#8211; this often depends on the connection gateway used or the use of transcoders. </p>
<p>Secondly, the IP address is rarely the physical device but rather the operators gateway machine the device is connected through, so all Sprint customers and Sprint MVNO customers (like Boost) in the US come through the same range of IP addresses. </p>
<p>Lastly consumers now switch connections between operator networks and WiFi (see <a href="http://bango.com/wifi" rel="nofollow">http://bango.com/wifi</a>) which affects the ability to track, most systems will allocate a new identity in this case. </p>
<p>Fortunately, unlike the PC, mobile devices come with operator identity which can be used safely and anonymously to persistently track consumers. For example, Bango Analytics (<a href="http://bango.com/analytics" rel="nofollow">http://bango.com/analytics</a>) uses this technique through relationships with operators around the world. It means Bango can offer much higher visitor identification accuracy than other solutions. It also works on PC sites &#8211; it&#8217;s worth trying the free trial (<a href="http://bango.com/signup" rel="nofollow">http://bango.com/signup</a>) and comparing.</p>
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